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the establishment republicans, the john boehner, mitch mcconnell wing of the party. to them the election was lost because the conservative ideologues pulled mitt romney so far to the right in the primaries he could never find his way back to the middle in november. on the other side is the right wing, jim demint, rick santorum, the talk radio conservative media industrial complex. they make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose. the problem to them was our guy wasn't ideological enough. the conflict is playing out in technicolor with demint blowing the united states senate to become the ceo of the conservative movement and firing a warning shot at boehner in the process. joining me are michael steele, former rnc chair, now one of us, and joy reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. she's also one of us. thank you, gentleman and lady. i want you to look at something. this is what happens when you go near what i call the misery index, the rush limbaugh show. yesterday jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina, and the outgoing heritage president ed fuelner went

. and given how little congress works, some of that has to be mitch mcconnell stopping by harry reid's family dinner to block passage of the mashed potato. (laughter) but i say so what? that's just politics. and mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate then the fighting, the bitterness, and the gridlock will only get worse. in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to make the disputes of the past few years look like mere pillow fights. >> stephen: he's right. to me they already look like pillow fights. i'm pretty sure joe lieberman's jowls are memory foam. (laughter) so you've been warned, harry reid! take away mitch mcconnell's filibuster and he will strike back by obstructing everything you do! or let him keep the filibuster so he can obstruct everything you do! (laughter) i think the choice is clear. we'll be right back. (cheers and applause) (cheers and applause) >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest toni

house calls it the mcconnell plan because it's based on an idea that mitch mcconnell proposed become in july 2011. but even though it is mitch mcconnell's idea, even though he came up with it, mitch mcconnell is not for it. mitch mcconnell at this point does not support the mcconnell plan at all. he didn't think democrats did either. and yesterday he wanted to call their bluff. now that is when c-span 2 suddenly became amazing television. yesterday afternoon mitch mcconnell asked the senate to move to an immediate vote on the mcconnell plan. vote on it now. you figured harry reid would back down. prove that even democrats don't like this idea. but reid did not back down. he doubled down. he said, yeah, let's vote on the plan. but let's move to an immediate up or down vote. no filibuster, no 60-vote requirement, let's see if it gets 51. if so, it's passed. at which point, mcconnell kind of filibustered his own bill. he said, no, if we're not going to have a 60-vote threshold, there would be no vote at all. he got his wish and then e he launched a filibuster or a 60-vote challenge agai

, what are they proposing? over the weekend, mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, he offered a few nuggets and i would like to get your thoughts. he said increase the medicare eligibility age, ask wealthier americans to pay higher medicare premiums. and possibly paring back the cost of living increases, giving to social security beneficiaries. those are three specific so we have heard so far from the gop side. what are your thoughts on that? >> i think that is a good thought. but mitch mcconnell and speaker boehner need to be more specific. that doesn't add up to more than two or three really dollars worth of cuts. the president proposed many more cuts than not. that is the beginning. this is a negotiation process. i am a lawyer and we settle cases by someone saying this or that and then they move to the middle. that is not what is going on, although mitch mcconnell name three things, that is more than the house republicans have done. again, the republicans are afraid to talk about where the cuts should come. because they're going to have to talk about medicare. megyn: entitl

, but it's really good for his colleague, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell. you see, jim demint is not your ordinary senator. he's like the grover norquist of the senate. he's the guy the other republican senators are really afraid of. and that is because more so than anyone else and definitely more than any other republican politician, demint is behind the tea party strategy of purifying the republican party in the cleansing fire of party primaries. demint created this pac called the senate conservativist fund, a pac he made into a super pac which makes it more super and exists to help conservative republicans beat other republicans. "since 2009 demint has raised more than $17 million to promote promising candidates in an effort to remake the senate not just in a republican image but in a diehard conservative one." the image of jim demint, even. and he has often done it by going to electoral war with his own party leadership. in the 2012 midterm elections demint threw his weight behind marco rubio in the republican primary for florida's senate race. despite the fact that th

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they are the party of cutting spending stop talking about the democrats, make an offer. >> mitch mcconnell is out there every single day saying these are the entitlement changes that i think make sense and would get us to a deal. raising the retirement age, dealing with change the inflation formula so the programs aren't spending so much out over time. if president obama is interested in reforming entitlements which he says he is but he never specifies what it would be. all he has to do is call up mitch mcconnell and say i think these are good ideas, let's sit down and they would happen. republicans would take those immediately. >> that's how you think republicans should lead, they should wait for a call from the president? not go on tv but make an actual offer? >> specific changes on entitlements. if the president is in favor of changing entitlements, all he has to do is say i agree these are changes we have to make, let's do them. >> have they made that offer to the white house? >> mitch mcconnell is out there every single day. they passed a budget with major entitlement reform that would get u

ten years along with the combination of new spending and some spending cuts. mitch mcconnell said he, quote, burst into laughter. still, the white house is making it clear until the republicans counteroffer. >> we didn't say how or how much or who should pay. >> there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is, what are they willing to do? >> at midnight the clock runs out. taxes will go up on everybody. and republicans will instead be in a position of voting against middle class tax cuts. democrats bring such a bill to the floor. on sunday house minority leader signaled democrats may not wait saying in a statement, quote, if speaker boehner refuses to schedule this widely supported bill for a vote on democrats for a vote, democrats will introduce a discharged petition to automatically bring to the floor the senate passed middle class tax cuts bill, that bill that would pass the 98% automatically raise the rates to the clinton era for the top 2%. ultimately he has to bring out the best deal. this new negotiation strategy. it appears to have ge

. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that means for the future. >>> and fiscal cliff talks. stay with us. you're watching "the ed show" on >>> unemployment hits a four had-year low, but republican obstruction is keeping the country from creates more jobs. we'll bring you the latest numbers and i'll ask david cay johnston why now is the time to focus on job creation. >>> and the supreme court will hear two cases on same-sex marriage. we'll get the details from jonathan turly later on in this hour. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we have seen a lot of obstructionism from the republicans. trying to stop progress has z how they do business. latest move from senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just might take the cake. he threatened to filibuster his own bill. mcconnell proposed legislation to give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling. under the plan, congress would need a two-thirds majority to stop him. it's a proposal that pre

. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> senator mitch mcconnell's self-fill buster is more than just an embarrassing blunder. senator bernie sanders of vermont explains why. >>> the right to work power grab in michigan has ignited a firestorm with workers. we'll have the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be festive this holiday season. meantime, john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had no

of the tea party arm and to eliminate mitch mcconnell. if everybody would pay attention and watch c-span it would realize who is causing a lot of this problem. we are down with our revenues to the lowest we have been in 60 years. they have stopped revenue from coming and that. we need revenue. there are a lot of people who do not mind being taxed. i do not like being taxed, but i have paid taxes my whole life. if we could get rid of the tea party arm and mitch mcconnell, we would be a lot better off. host: 21 for the call. if you are just joining us or listening on c-span radio, our focus is on the president's second term, what should his number one priority be? a follow up on one of the final choruses in the house of representatives yet to be determined. a run up election that took place yesterday. according to the associated press with 98% of precincts reporting, he led landry by 61% to 39.2%, a difference of just over 21,000 votes. that is from the third congressional district. from the venice, florida. caller: hello. first of all, the first thing would go to the jobs. it is bett

. >> in the senate mitch mcconnell proposed a vote on the part of the president's proposal that would allow the white house and not congress to control on its own without their input. but majority leader harry reid said that is not. >> if the president's proposal is made in good faith our friends should be eager to vote for them. so i am surprised the majority leader declined a chance for them to support it for their votes. so i guess we are left to conclude that it couldn't pass by a fair majority of votes and that they would rather that i can take the country off the cliff. >> get ready to listen to lawmakers today try to spin the unemployment report in favor of their proposal one way or the other starting about 3 and a half hours from right now. >> we will be watching. looking forward to seeing those numbers. sthooivengs. >>> it is time for a look at who is talking. this morning we are hearing from john mccain. mccain discussing the growing crisis in syria. the reports frightening. the president bish charral assad preparing to release deadly gas on its people. >> hillary clinton releasing this st

it. the congress could object. and mitch mcconnell put that bill forward on the floor this week, thinking he was going to embarrass democratic leader reed, and reed said let's go ahead and vote. it and so then mcconnell filibustered his own bill because he got afraid the democrats had the votes for it. so that's the kind of maneuvering that is going on. childish. >> yes, childish. very childish. former republican majority leader trent lott told cnn's anderson cooper how he had a working relationship with his democratic counterpart tom daschle. the two did something called compromise. a concept that facilitates law foreign in today's congress. watch. >> i had a red phone where when i picked up that phone, it rang only one place. on tom daschle's desk. and when he picked it up, i knew i was talking to tom daschle. not his staff. not my staff. sometimes he and i lead when our conferences were not ready to move. i remember i called one time i called him, i stepped out from a conference meeting and tom you know we need to do this, i'm having problem and he said i am too, let's go, i

that mitch mcconnell actually filibustered his own bill. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: yes, that was great. harry reidy thidthld boxer - - >> yeah harry reid boxed him into this. it's hysterical. >> stephanie: what is the boxing thing -- >> rope a dope. >> stephanie: yes, exactly. where is my story on this -- talk amongst yourselves. >> oh, okay. >> stephanie: he thought he was being so smart. i'm moving slowly -- >> look out, here it comes. >> do you need me to print it? >> stephanie: no i got it. >> oh no. what am i going to do now. >> stephanie: it was further down in the stack than i had anticipated. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: yes, he filibustered his own bill to lift the debt ceiling. instead they called his bluff and he ended up filibustering his own bill. ♪ you are an idiot ♪ >> stephanie: the legislation would permit the president to unilaterally lift the debt ceiling, and never before in our history has someone taken the debt ceiling hostage as something to negotiate over. >> right. >> stephanie: mcconnell brought up the legislation, h

and billionaires, the top 2% in the country. you can't blame even mitch mcconnell any more. it's john boehner who is standing in the way. he did so again the republicans give this babble. the president says what's your plan? what do you want to cut? close loopholes. what loopholes? they won't say. to them, nothing. a detailed plan versus nothing. you've got a existed in in president obama versus a lose her in john boehner. and here is boehner again yesterday, on fox news sunday saying, when he looked at the president's proposal, oh my god. >> i was flabbergasted. >> flabbergasted. >> he can't be serious. i just have never seen anything like it. we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year three weeks have been wasted with the nonsense. who is flabbergasted anymore? have you ever heard that word? >> peter: an old word. >> 1920s called. they weren't there. >> bill: yeah, my great aunt madeline used to say, "flabbergasted" she was 90 then. >> i was waiting for him to say we got beat, it was a slobberknocker. >> maybe they say that in the

with mitch mcconnell, essentially fill lee bust sistering his own bill. he says it has to guarantee that there won't be another debt ceiling crisis. but could that be where we're headed? >> well, it's certainly possible. it would be a terrible outcome and i think you're hearing business leaders weigh in and say, we don't want to go through this debate only to be followed by another big fight over the debt limit. and we just can't afford every year, every 18 months to have a debate about whether we honor the full faith and credit of the u.s. government. that's no way to run the country. >> what do you think the chances of that happening? >> it's possible. one of the things that the republicans might get as part of this package is another opportunity to make their case around the debt ceiling. but there ought to be some limit on it and i like the president's proposal that basically requires a two-thirds vote to overcome the president's decision to raise the debt. that still gives members a chance to weigh in, still requires a vote on the debt limit. it doesn't let lawmakers off the ho

and take a look at what happened you wrote about mitch mcconnell and his attempt basically calling for a filibuster of his own debt ceiling bill. how does that happen? >> big misstep by the senate republican leader on the floor. republicans have often brought up pieces of legislation that they know democrats won't vote for. the president's budget is an example. the day before mcconnell brought up the president's plan that secretary quiter in brought to republicans and harry would have put it on the floor. he took the debt limit and put that on the floor and harry reid said i'm going to take a look at it and get back to you. few hours he said hey, mitch, let's do it. and we have the votes let's put it on the floor and mitch mcconnell said only if there's a 60 vote thresh hold and republicans lost a lot of leverage there. this -- remember the debt ceiling limit was something republicans thought they could deal on going forward and that they could maybe get some spending cuts and agreement to raise the debt limit. >> they thought they had the upper hand. mitch mcconnell sort of blew h

, thank you all so much. next, ashley judd versus mitch mcconnell. a man who filibusters himself. stay with us. >> why does he not have any clothes on and what is he doing? >> yeah. then he sits on the budget committee, so what is john thune's plan to keep us from going over the fiscal cliff? toure, karen finney, and committee, so what is john toure, karen finney, and committee, so what is john you can prevent gas with beano meltaways, or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin delivery... my way. levemir® (insulin detemir [rdna origin] injection) is a long-acting insulin used to control

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you for joining us. >> eliot: will john boehner and mitch mcconnell actually leave this time? coming up next. ice breakers mints. break the ice. question: why are ice breakers mints called mints? answer in a moment. fruit just got cooler. fruit on one side, cool on the other. ice breakers duo. a fruity, cool way to break the ice. brought to you by ice breakers mints. break the ice. [ singing christmas carols in background ] aunt sally's singing again. it's a tradition honey. [ singing christmas carols ] mmmm. [ female announcer ] make new traditions with pillsbury grands! cinnamon rolls. [ female announcer ] what would you call an ordinary breakfast pastry that's been wrapped in a flaky crust stuffed with a gooey center toasted up all golden brown then given a delicious design? a toaster strudel. pillsbury toaster strudel. so delicious...so fun. >> eliot: one of the reasons cited by senate republicans to ratify an u.n. treaty providing protection to people with disabilities they didn't believe big decisions should be made by a lame duck congress, re

, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of most senate republicans on the disability treaty showed once again just how far they are, and how far they are removed from reality. one democratic senator told me yesterday his office was actually getting calls from constituents with disabled children wanting to know if the u.n. would remove their children from their homes. it is manufacturing fear in the lives of americans. sometimes it's just a bald-faced lie about the facts. here's the democratic and republican opening bids on the fiscal cliff. but the revenue side of the republican proposal just doesn't match up with reality. you can't get $800 billion in revenue from lowering rates and closing loopholes and deductions. can we get on that page? it doesn't come close to adding up, unless you get rid of

. >> eliot: will john boehner and mitch mcconnell actually leave jennifer >>>> i want the people who watch our show to be able to come away armed with facts and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. >> eliot: one of the reasons cited by senate republicans to ratify an u.n. treaty providing protection to people with disabilities they didn't believe big decisions should be made by a lame duck congress, really? these are the same folks who were supposed to be in serious negotiations about the impending fiscal cliff. even mitch mcconnell should acknowledge the hypocrisy in that one. over the fiscal cliff negotiations one thing has become crystal clear. the schisms are becoming more and more pronounce. there are three distinct groups, theological warriors who want to impose their views on the country. tee party zealots and remnant of the pro business moderates while their fiscal views are the last reasonable voice in the republican party. it's this last group who are willing to compromise and combine their ideologi

national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> mitch mcconnell talked about the fiscal click on the floor of the senate. the two parties first sat down to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats actually wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any possible agreement had shown. that was the common goal, or so we thought. over the past couple of weeks it's become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seemed perfectly happy -- perfectly happy -- to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. and it explains why the president is now stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said just last year that you could raise more revenue from capping deductions and closing loopholes. this isn't about the deficit for them or balance. it's about an ideological campaign that most americans thought would have ended on november 6, and that's also why t

, there's another interesting development with the leadership yesterday was that mitch mcconnell tried to make a move to separate out the debt negotiation, the debt ceiling and he thought he had a power play to embarrass the democrats, and the democrats pulled together 51 votes. >> he had to filibuster himself. >> filibuster his own bill. >> wow. >> isn't it a fascinating change, though, mark, back when we were younger, like ten years ago, it used to be the senate that was the chamber where members were more respectful of each other. now watching harry reid run the senate and mitch mcconnell blast back at him, they are acting really -- and you see this all across the senate. more like we used to behave in the house. >> yeah, those emperors aren't wearing much clothes. >> have you seen a moment in time where two politicians have seemed more like the parade has passed by than mitch mcconnell and mary reed. it's time to change. >> i have no idea why harry reid is running the democratic caucus. i mean, maybe he's great behind the scenes, but in front of the camera, he's just -- >> mitch mc

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: agree to raise taxes. >> now. his thing. mitch mcconnell tried to get the senate, harry reid to vote on the president's plan and harry reid said no. democrats are calling it a stunt. this is the president's plan we can raise taxes on rich and you don't have to cut spending and you can do all the things that he wants to do, and they don't want that to come to a vote. there might be something there. i'm thinking that might maybe make him on it and let the chips fall where they make. elections have consequences. at that right now. lou: i think we all agree about consequences. certainly. your thoughts on this? does it look to you right now like we are going to avoid this fiscal cliff? the president, but the brilliant idea? it's interesting how he does this. he initiates an ultimatum and the goes passive aggressive on everyone and withdraws from the field. it's really a bizarre and intriguing strategy which obviously has completely confounded republican leaders. >> yes, and the polls show that the american people are proud and -- probably going to blend republicans now matter what happens

have been sitting down face to face in a private room with john boehner and/or mitch mcconnell and hammering this thing out. building a relationship, building trust and trying to pull people together he was at a toy factory in pennsylvania. talking about the campaign modes and that's not how you negotiate and resolve these sort of issues. >> we know that barack obama speaks for democrats who speaks for republicans nowf? >> i think john boehner is the closest thing to a republican voice. he holds let's say the key to the lock. he is the most powerful republican in congress. my feeling is boehner wants to work something out. he has got to go home not only to his own constituents but every republicans in america and some in the house who aren't easy to pull along he he imant go to them and given up that tax bracket for the 2% and theying say what did you gte mr. baker? nothing yet. he can't do that with a straight face his own party will crucify him over that. >> over 50% that we fall off? >> i wouldn't have said that two weeks ago today. i think that's probably right and it's unn

did not win. you can bet mitch mcconnell was not unhappy he left. he feels he's not a majority leader because of demint is there. there's a lot of "ding dong the which is gone" sentiment. >> a lot of republicans up to mitch mcconnell the senate republican leader who believed they would be in the majority today if not for some of the candidates. >> on the right there's a little too much demoralization. even's so depressed on the conservative side, very similar to wait was like in the 2004 election when george w. bush was elected. i always caution, you know, people are conservative like me, look, republicans can make a comeback. they can win in 2014, 16. you shouldn't abandon your basic principle ps. >> mark, you guest the last word, the final 15 seconds. tea party, less government interferen interference, are those sorts of ideas fading? >> no. i think that's part of the experience. we have this constant historical batter going all the way back to that point. how much government do we want or don't want and i think this is just part of that battle. i know on an only optimistic vote we

debt ceiling showdown. i want to play a clip of mitch mcconnell talking about that. let's play it now. >> by demanding the power to raise the debt limit when ever he wants by as much as he wants, he showed what he's after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars without anyone -- i assure you it's not going to happen. >> the back story is republicans have no leverage in the fiscal curve talks. if nothing happens, they don't get anything they are looking for january 1st. but, they see a chance to get leverage here a month later when we hit the debt ceiling. they are talking about if we don't get the concessions right now in these negotiations, we are going to hold it over your head. i'm looking at this. in the way out, the constitutional scholars offered, they say there is -- congress can't default like this. we are going to keep on like nothing happened. the white house explicitly ruled that out. it would unsettle the markets. short of that, the republicans have leverage again, don't they? >> sadly, it seems to me they do. i was happy to hear the president say this sh

on the hill and saying this is basically the white house position has been -- mitch mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it's -- you know, ridiculous, it's a nonstarter. when you went up there, you didn't think republicans were going to go "good idea." >> you know, what we're trying to do is get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and good for the economy. >> by these guys you mean you all and the republicans. >> and democrats together. >> and the white house. >> that's what we're trying to do. what we did was put forward a very comprehensive, very carefully designed mix of savings and tax reforms to help us put us back on the path to stabilizing our debt and fixing our debt and living within our means. we've been very detailed about how to do that, both on the spending side and revenue side, and we think this is a good plan for the country, and it does the most important thing, which is it gives 9

it has to be to meet their revenue goals. contrary to what mitch mcconnell and john boehner said since he was up on the hill with timothy geithner. mr. mcconnell laughed at the geithner proposal. he said it was a serious proposal. he might be the only one outside of this precinct who believes that and geithner insists if the gop wants entitlement reform, reform to social security and medicare and medicaid and many of those things were on the table in that failed grand bargaining of a year and a half ago, geithner, the president, all administration officials insist, it's the republicans who have going to have to show a little ankle and insist on what they want. make it clear what they want in terms of those reforms, if they want them to be on the table. the administration is not going to go first, they say they've already spelled out what they want in terms of raising taxesnd revenue. we don't apleer to be closer to a deal 29 days out. craig? >> republicans are going to have to show a little more ankle. i'll be using that. mike viquiera, from 1600 pennsylvania, thank you, good sir. so will

, and, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader said he burst into laughter. >> they are in a tough position now and it will be -- obviously hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next and we might need to give them time to figure that out, but what we did is, what you expect from us, we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending, and t protect taxes, taxes from going up, for 98% of americans and investments for infrastructure and we think that is a good set of proposals and if they have different suctions and want to go further, they should lay it out to us. >> chris: when you say, they are in a hard spot, what do you mean. >> because they are trying to figure out how to find a way to support things that they know they are going to have to do. that will be hard for them, again you heard them for the first time in two decades, analogy they are willing to have revenues go up as part of a balanced plan and that is a good first step but they have to say what they are willing to do on rates and revenues, and that is hard but there is no way o

agrees to raise rates. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell didn't support speaker boehner's plan. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along, and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> i want to bring in "time" magazine's assistant editor and "national journal"'s chris freitz. does this come down to john boehner and what he's willing to do? >> i think what we've been seeing for the last few months, the ideological struggle within the republican party. you've seen some moderate voices stepping up saying let's make a compromise but you have a house that's intransigent. i think bainer is in charge at the end of the day but he's got to wait, marshall the forces and have people coming to him and i hope this doesn't become a game of chicken that goes on into february and march when we have to raise the debt ceiling. >> the question is rates, are rates going to go up? let me play what tom coburn said this morning. >> personally i know we have to raise revenue. i don't care which wa

for someone like mitch mcconnell, he can with his own reelections coming up not have the counterweight of jim demint's considerable presence within the chamber. so there are some interesting aspects of this. it may also be good for the party, let's jump ahead a bit and the governor of south carolina, nicky haley, gets to appoint interim senator. might she choose someone who is also full of his tea party credentials, tim scott, a second-term about to be member of congress who is also african-american? you can make history by having the first african-american senator from south carolina. there is no african-american in the senate at present. so that might be a way to benefit the party as well. so there are lots of ways to look at this. certainly jim demint has done something he's quite good at, making headlines. >> kelly you, read my mind. chuck, do think the politics of the appointment, nikki nailly will make an appointment. tim scott, african-american tea party credential. demint made clear in private to folks in south carolina that's who he wants. walk us through politics of an appointment a

mitch mcconnell think is going on the president just wants to spend more money. listen. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit but so he can spend to his heart's content. as a result some democrats have pushed the president to just raise the nation's debt ceiling on his own. they believe he has that executive power by invoking the 14th amendment of the constitution. but jay jay cancer carney the white house spokesman has studied that. they do not believe the president has that executive power. what that means they have got to go to congress to get the debt ceiling lifted the next couple of mons. that means the showdown is coming, shep. >> shepard: ed henry at the white house lawn. one critical republic who criticized house speaker john boehner over own party fiscal cliff honor says is he resigning. an important man, too. south carolina senator ji

to have both of you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic strategist donna genteel-o'donnell will weigh in on that tonight. >>> the ceo of apple makes a big announcement about the future o

, colorado and nevada and in a statement made yesterday minority leader mitch mcconnell said this. i thank senator demint for his uncompromising service to south carolina and our country in the united states senate. service. he probably wishes he was a little less compromising. that's how you can tell the ones secretly happy he was leaving. you heard phraseology like that. demint leaves the senate a month after conservatives were set back by obama's re-election. demint's 2010 network was $65,000. heritage current president made over $1 million in 2010. it's also a powerful statement about where demint believes he can have the most influence as a movement conservative. outside elected office. >> i think i'm in a more pow powerful position than a single united states senator. i am looking for a place where i can make more of a difference. >> demint summed up his frustration the last time he spoke from the floor of the united states senate. >> this senator is ashamed of the way the senate is being run. we have had an entire congress of gag rules, limited debate, limited votes, limited amendme

're not going to compromise," the next day it's john boehner saying it. and then mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate says, you know, what my goal is to make barack obama a one-term president. they're supposed to be leaders of the legislative branch of the government, not party hacks. and we have a system now, you know, that is all about looking toward the next election, how we do that. >> this is a strong indictment of the polarization of the two parties. >> yeah. >> but isn't the country also very polarized? >> the country is very polarized in some senses. but you also find the american people saying, "solve the problem. don't go over a fiscal cliff." or, you know, "pay our bills," or, "do something about the budget." now, i think even though the people tend to not be open to a lot of different views, they want the people they elect to make government work. >> so, we have created a political system that rewards intransigence. >> we've created a system that says, "we reward incivility. we reward refusal to compromise. we punish people who compromise and are civil and get along w

o'donnell? cnn is told senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was annoyed for backing o'donnell and a couple other losing candidates in 2010 and cost republicans the majority. at the time demint told us he was unapologetic and still is. you're trying to send a message to the gop establishment. >> the gop establishment is out. and what we're going to do is help the american people take back their government. >> reporter: in the flood of gop reaction to demint's surprise retirement, he didn't have to read between the lines much in the gop leader's three-sentence statement to see some hard feelingsthanking demint for his service and another who called demint a friend. >> i've always liked the guy. and even though i disagree with so much of what he's done, i appreciate that -- i personally believe he does this out of a sense of real belief. it's not political posturing for him as it is for a lot of people. so i like jim demint. i wish him well. >> reporter: now, wolf, remember jim demint is one of the most conservative senators who worked very, very hard to block many pieces

: did you see mitch mcconnell said he burst out laughing at the president's proposal. somebody sent me a picture of a galapagos turtle. >> i'll have the last laugh. i'll live to be 370 years old. >> stephanie: okay. federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since dwight eisenhower brought the korean war to an end. >> meaning it is rising at the fastest pace. ever! >> just by way of comparison, in the twine fiscal year, the last of george w. bush's presidency, the fiscal year goes -- federal spending rose by 17.9% from the 2.98 trillion to 2.52 trillion. in fiscal 2010, the first budget under obama spending fell 1.3% to $2.36 trillion. >> you say that like it's's good thing. i'm flabbergasted. >> who uses the word flabbergasted anymore? >> stephanie: john boehner. >> cracky. >> stephanie: the big surge in federal spending happens in fiscal 2009 before obama took office. the 2009 fiscal year which republicans count as part of obama's legacy isn't that handy? brought on by george w. bush. >> flabbergasting

leader mitch mcconnell did yesterday. get this. he tried playing a trick on the democrats and wrote a bill allowing the president to raise the debt ceiling. mcconnell assumed democrats would not want to vote on that and was hoping to use that against them saying no one wanted to give the president that power. that back fired when the democratic caucus was happy to vote on the measure forcing mcconnell to say no. here is the democrats' response. >> this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote on that proposal, fillibustered his own proposal the i think we have reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> the senate democrats posted that to youtube yesterday. mcconnellts reason for not voting on the bill? he said it is so important it needed a filibuster-proof majority rather than a straight up and down vote. >>> good news for president obama. he now has his highest approval rating since 2009. quarreling quinnipiac released a new poll yesterday found appr

seemed to be a crazy thing that senator mitch mcconnell was trying to do that ended up backfiring on him pretty badly. >> reporter: some theatrics. the debt ceiling, it's set to be hit in january or february. that's complicating the fiscal cliff discussions. mitch mcconnell yesterday proposed a vote on a measure that would give the president the authority to increase the debt ceiling without congressional input. this is something that the white house has proposed as part of their fiscal cliff proposal. it's a nonstarter for republicans. but he wanted to put it on the floor to show that even democrats don't support giving the president that kind of authority. he did that and harry reid turned around and said, let's see if we can do it with a simple majority for 51 votes and democrats it appeared had made sure they had that and then mitch mcconnell in return ended up objecting to the very thing he propose eed. take a listen. >> now the republican leader objects his own idea. i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill. >> so this was some maneuvering that went on. mitch mcconnell won the

mitch mcconnell as well to put medicare and social security on the table to try and the budget crisis we're talking about. mcconnell telling the "wall street journal" that those are the kind of things that would get republicans interested in new revenue. maybe bipartisan. john fund, a columnist for the "national review magazine." good morning. >> good morning. >> jamie: great to have you here this morning. >> thanks. >> jamie: we have less than a month left as we have been talking about went're now in december for the fiscal cliff. what truly is on the table where both democrats and republicans are concerned? do you see anything they agree on? >> we have four weeks to go and so far there is not very much. remember, president obama said in the campaign he favored a balanced approach to getting over the fiscal cliff. balanced normally means about 50/50. 50% spending restraint. 50% revenue enhancement. but the president's proposal is apparently something like 80% tax increases. 20% spending restraint. unspecified. unspecified means it won't ever happen. >> jamie: what do you expect to happe

, that of course, because there's so much at stake. >> schieffer: in all seriousness, i'm told mitch mcconnell laughed when you handed in this proposal. is that true? >> they're in a hard position, bob. they really are in a difficult position. and they're going to have to figure out their politics of what they do next and they're trying to figure that out right now. we're going to work very hard at this and we're going to keep talking to each other. and, again, i think we have a very good chance for coming together on an agreement that not just protects 98% of americans from a tax increase and protects the economy from deeply damaging upfront spending cuts and protects the med from leaving us vulnerable to, you know, periodic threats of defaults by politicians, i think we can do better than that and do something good for the long-term future of the american economy. >> schieffer: did you think democrats will support these tax increases? >> the tax increases in the president's plan? oh, yeah, absolutely. again, again, if you listen carefully to the political debate, there's very broad-based sup

and this is the best we got? >> reporter: the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell laughed at geithner. geithner said if republicans don't like the president's plan it's up to them to present their own ideas. >> what we can't do is figure out what works for them. they have to come tell us what works for them. >> reporter: secretary geithner made it clear there will be no deal that does not include a tax hike on the wealthiest americans. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: no formal negotiating sessions are on the schedule here and many believe it will take about a week for the real work towards a solution to get under way. now, so much of the talk right now is about taxes, but another aspect of this fiscal cliff is massive, massive defense cuts. that's going to be a topic here in washington today, terrell, when several ceos of the defense industry talk about the impact on their industry. >> susan mcginnis in washington this morning. thank you. kansas city authorities are still trying to piece together what prompted kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher t

. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at geithner during their meeting last week. now geithner says if republicans don't like the plan, it's up to them to present their own ideas. >> what we can't do is try to figure out what works for them. they have to tell us what works tore them. >> reporter: but secretary geithner made it clear there will be no deal that does not include a tax hike on the wealthiest americans. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: no formal negotiating sessions are on the schedule here and many believe it will take about a week for the real work toward a solution to get under way. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >> nancy pelosi will try to get a vote but won't give get republican support. >>> in "your world this morning," fighting is intensifying in syria between government troops and rebel forces. the rebels are close to capturing the airport that serves the capital of damascus. the syrian air force has responded by dropping bombs on rebel positions. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton has repeated her warning t

offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and still get this thing passed. you know, i never hear the discussion about spending. i'm not saying you. it is about taxes and revenues. they are supposed to have a $1.2 trillion spending cut. they are nowhere near rephr

. >>> and finally, politico reports ashley judd is seriously considering a run for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in kentucky. judd has talked with new york senator gillibrand and a democrat being pollster. judd is honored at being considered. and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. now a check of your national weather. we turn to bill karins. he has the weather channel forecast for you. which continues to be a little toasty. >> a little balmy. >> put the sunscreen on. nice. >> you probably needed it in some spots. so many stories of flowers and trees and green glass and lack of snow out there. but things have changed. this map shows you where it's gotten colder and warmer compared to this time yesterday. and you notice that chicago is much colder right now. you've returned back to normal winter conditions, while the eastern seaboard is even warmer this morning than it was yesterday. yesterday it was very warm. we are watching a few showers out there, too, but these temperatures, they're not going to get much warmer than this today. unlike yesterday where the sun came out during the a

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